Comments for of common prayer http://www.ofcommonprayer.com The Book of Common Prayer - Standard English Project Wed, 11 Jan 2012 02:37:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 Comment on Book of Common Prayer – Standard English Version by Nancy Craig http://www.ofcommonprayer.com/6/book-of-common-prayer-standard-english-version/#comment-713 Nancy Craig Wed, 11 Jan 2012 02:37:38 +0000 http://www.ofcommonprayer.com/?p=6#comment-713 My draft site is up and running, and has a link giving credit to this one. Feel free to have a look, help me proof read, or borrow anything that may be helpful to your site! http://www3.telus.net/bcp-21/BCP-21-index.html My draft site is up and running, and has a link giving credit to this one. Feel free to have a look, help me proof read, or borrow anything that may be helpful to your site!
http://www3.telus.net/bcp-21/BCP-21-index.html

]]> Comment on Book of Common Prayer – Standard English Version by VFMurphy http://www.ofcommonprayer.com/6/book-of-common-prayer-standard-english-version/#comment-640 VFMurphy Tue, 06 Dec 2011 03:37:12 +0000 http://www.ofcommonprayer.com/?p=6#comment-640 Hello Nancy; I'm happy for you to use the texts as you have described, do please keep in touch as your project sounds valuable and I'd love to see how it develops. Vincent Hello Nancy;
I’m happy for you to use the texts as you have described, do please keep in touch as your project sounds valuable and I’d love to see how it develops.
Vincent

]]> Comment on Book of Common Prayer – Standard English Version by Nancy Craig http://www.ofcommonprayer.com/6/book-of-common-prayer-standard-english-version/#comment-639 Nancy Craig Mon, 05 Dec 2011 20:13:57 +0000 http://www.ofcommonprayer.com/?p=6#comment-639 I have been working on a personal project of bringing the 1962 Canadian Book of Common Prayer into more modern English, ahead of the 50th anniversary of this edition next year. I have found your site, among others, very helpful, and have drawn some wording from it. I may be putting up my efforts as a webpage (likely just privately on what I can get from an e-mail server account), but would like your permission for bits I have borrowed, and permission also then to put a link to your site. I have been working on a personal project of bringing the 1962 Canadian Book of Common Prayer into more modern English, ahead of the 50th anniversary of this edition next year. I have found your site, among others, very helpful, and have drawn some wording from it. I may be putting up my efforts as a webpage (likely just privately on what I can get from an e-mail server account), but would like your permission for bits I have borrowed, and permission also then to put a link to your site.

]]> Comment on Book of Common Prayer – Standard English Version by VFMurphy http://www.ofcommonprayer.com/6/book-of-common-prayer-standard-english-version/#comment-601 VFMurphy Tue, 08 Nov 2011 01:00:27 +0000 http://www.ofcommonprayer.com/?p=6#comment-601 Charles; thank you very much for your encouraging and well reasoned comment. Like you, I find it unacceptable that a minister is faced with the choice between using language which is apparently unacceptable to modern congregations and using a liturgy which expresses a doctrine sadly contrary to that of the church (whether by omission of doctrinal statement, permission for heretical additions, lack of clarity that leads to 'misunderstanding', or even open replacement of material Cranmer wisely removed). As to Copyright, I am not based in the UK but rather in a place where Crown Copyright does not apply to the BCP of 1662. The situation in the UK itself requires more specialist advice than I am able to provide. However, I will note that the basis of crown copyright on the BCP of 1662 is to ensure it is printed without unauthorised alteration (else someone may maliciously edit the book and start selling their own BCPs, defeating common prayer and the utility of the prayerbook as an expression of doctrine) - as such it is very unlikely that such a work could be printed in the UK under the plain name "Book of Common Prayer", whatever other permissions may be sought or obtained. Charles; thank you very much for your encouraging and well reasoned comment. Like you, I find it unacceptable that a minister is faced with the choice between using language which is apparently unacceptable to modern congregations and using a liturgy which expresses a doctrine sadly contrary to that of the church (whether by omission of doctrinal statement, permission for heretical additions, lack of clarity that leads to ‘misunderstanding’, or even open replacement of material Cranmer wisely removed). As to Copyright, I am not based in the UK but rather in a place where Crown Copyright does not apply to the BCP of 1662. The situation in the UK itself requires more specialist advice than I am able to provide. However, I will note that the basis of crown copyright on the BCP of 1662 is to ensure it is printed without unauthorised alteration (else someone may maliciously edit the book and start selling their own BCPs, defeating common prayer and the utility of the prayerbook as an expression of doctrine) – as such it is very unlikely that such a work could be printed in the UK under the plain name “Book of Common Prayer”, whatever other permissions may be sought or obtained.

]]> Comment on Book of Common Prayer – Standard English Version by Charles http://www.ofcommonprayer.com/6/book-of-common-prayer-standard-english-version/#comment-600 Charles Mon, 07 Nov 2011 20:56:04 +0000 http://www.ofcommonprayer.com/?p=6#comment-600 I am a member of the Prayer Book Society. I worship at my parish church which, like most in England, no longer uses the Prayer Book which I was brought up with and love, both for its language and doctrine. Anglicans of my generation have the words and prayers of the Prayer Book in their heads - it used to be truly COMMON prayer. I have come to the firm view that the only way to restore the doctrine and liturgy of the Church of England to what it was formerly - i.e. COMMON - is by doing what you are doing. It is wrong that the second person singular form of the verb is virtually all that stands between us and use of the Prayer Book we love in church. I believe that if such a prayer book was published it would gain acceptance in many churches by replacing the chaos we currently have. The irony is that whatever else Common Worship is, it is not common! However, I have a question: how do you see the issue of copyright which is vested in the Crown (i.e. Cambridge University Press) for the UK)? I am a member of the Prayer Book Society. I worship at my parish church which, like most in England, no longer uses the Prayer Book which I was brought up with and love, both for its language and doctrine. Anglicans of my generation have the words and prayers of the Prayer Book in their heads – it used to be truly COMMON prayer. I have come to the firm view that the only way to restore the doctrine and liturgy of the Church of England to what it was formerly – i.e. COMMON – is by doing what you are doing. It is wrong that the second person singular form of the verb is virtually all that stands between us and use of the Prayer Book we love in church. I believe that if such a prayer book was published it would gain acceptance in many churches by replacing the chaos we currently have. The irony is that whatever else Common Worship is, it is not common! However, I have a question: how do you see the issue of copyright which is vested in the Crown (i.e. Cambridge University Press) for the UK)?

]]> Comment on Book of Common Prayer – Standard English Version by VFMurphy http://www.ofcommonprayer.com/6/book-of-common-prayer-standard-english-version/#comment-343 VFMurphy Fri, 22 Apr 2011 15:51:57 +0000 http://www.ofcommonprayer.com/?p=6#comment-343 Thank you; your advice on preparing ipad downloads will be very useful. Thank you; your advice on preparing ipad downloads will be very useful.

]]> Comment on Book of Common Prayer – Standard English Version by VFMurphy http://www.ofcommonprayer.com/6/book-of-common-prayer-standard-english-version/#comment-342 VFMurphy Fri, 22 Apr 2011 15:51:30 +0000 http://www.ofcommonprayer.com/?p=6#comment-342 Dear Allison; sorry for the delayed response. So far as I am aware, the Anglican Breviary is found within the Book of Common Prayer and consists of Morning Prayer and Evening Prayer and as such is covered by this current project. Thank you for your encouragement and feedback. Dear Allison; sorry for the delayed response. So far as I am aware, the Anglican Breviary is found within the Book of Common Prayer and consists of Morning Prayer and Evening Prayer and as such is covered by this current project. Thank you for your encouragement and feedback.

]]> Comment on Book of Common Prayer – Standard English Version by Allison Hammond http://www.ofcommonprayer.com/6/book-of-common-prayer-standard-english-version/#comment-297 Allison Hammond Sun, 03 Apr 2011 01:11:36 +0000 http://www.ofcommonprayer.com/?p=6#comment-297 I think this is a simply wonderful idea - I have been looking for something like this for several years now! I will keep this project in my prayers. So, a request and a question: First the request: I'd love to see a Kindle edition of this when you are finished - especially of the offices! And second a question - do you know of any effort to do exactly what you are doing (gentle language modernization; no theological changes) for the Anglican Breviary? THAT'S what I would love the most. Thank you for your work on this! I think this is a simply wonderful idea – I have been looking for something like this for several years now! I will keep this project in my prayers. So, a request and a question: First the request: I’d love to see a Kindle edition of this when you are finished – especially of the offices! And second a question – do you know of any effort to do exactly what you are doing (gentle language modernization; no theological changes) for the Anglican Breviary? THAT’S what I would love the most.

Thank you for your work on this!

]]> Comment on Book of Common Prayer – Standard English Version by Fr. Patrick Malone http://www.ofcommonprayer.com/6/book-of-common-prayer-standard-english-version/#comment-293 Fr. Patrick Malone Sat, 02 Apr 2011 02:26:47 +0000 http://www.ofcommonprayer.com/?p=6#comment-293 As far as ipad downloads go, if you have a mac and the Apple software Pages you can copy and past the material into pages and export as an epub document. Then in iTunes transfer it into iBooks. For the pc, copy and paste into word and then inport and export out of Stanza, which is a free software. And then do the same in itunes. As far as ipad downloads go, if you have a mac and the Apple software Pages you can copy and past the material into pages and export as an epub document. Then in iTunes transfer it into iBooks.

For the pc, copy and paste into word and then inport and export out of Stanza, which is a free software. And then do the same in itunes.

]]> Comment on The Lord’s Supper or Holy Communion by Jordan Lavender http://www.ofcommonprayer.com/11/the-lords-supper-or-holy-communion/#comment-287 Jordan Lavender Thu, 31 Mar 2011 01:08:20 +0000 http://www.ofcommonprayer.com/?p=11#comment-287 I'm working on a BCP-related project which aims to gently revise the 1662 BCP for use in American churches. I've added some supplements that I've found in texts such as "Common Worship" and "An Anglican Prayer Book" to reflect the ever-changing nature of liturgy while remaining faithful to the original text. I am also providing an appendices with additional propers, introits, and other texts found in specifically Anglican sources. I'd love to help out with this project, if possible. I have a B.A. in Spanish and am pursuing graduate work in linguistics. I would be willing to read through drafts. I am currently using the 1662 as my daily office so I would in addition use these texts in daily prayer to add to the validity of the translation. I’m working on a BCP-related project which aims to gently revise the 1662 BCP for use in American churches. I’ve added some supplements that I’ve found in texts such as “Common Worship” and “An Anglican Prayer Book” to reflect the ever-changing nature of liturgy while remaining faithful to the original text. I am also providing an appendices with additional propers, introits, and other texts found in specifically Anglican sources. I’d love to help out with this project, if possible. I have a B.A. in Spanish and am pursuing graduate work in linguistics. I would be willing to read through drafts. I am currently using the 1662 as my daily office so I would in addition use these texts in daily prayer to add to the validity of the translation.

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